On Aug 19, 10:48 am, Greegor <Greego...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Aug 19, 7:48 am, "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > On Aug 19, 5:51 am, " krp" <krp24...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > "Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>news:f6e884a5-c6a2-4e29-858f-c6ccaae9124f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > >> >> > I do, however, think he was abusing her. Nothing ***ual
about it,
> > > >> >> > just plain old cold shower treatment abuse.
> > > >> >> > I've no need to look for more signs. Greg told us that's
what he
> > > >> >> > did. He said that he made the little girl take fast cold
showers
> > > >> >> > because she was wetting herself. You can't get any more
specific
> > > >> >> > than
> > > >> >> > that. Can you?
>
> > > >> >> Betty I might agree that Greg's ideas of how to stop the
kid from
> > > >> >> wetting are a bit strange. But are you aware that some social
workers
> > > >> >> actually recommend this technique? Which is another reason I
think
> > > >> >> social
> > > >> >> workers are QUACKS! No - it would not be anything *I* would
do. But
> > > >> >> Greg
> > > >> >> is
> > > >> >> just an ordinary guy, he's going to rely on what, to HIM is a
> > > >> >> professional,
> > > >> >> tells him to do. He's a VERY naive person.
>
> > > >> > Well Ken, I'm from Missouri, so you'll have to SHOW ME that ANY
social
> > > >> > worker is recommending this.
>
> KRP > Look up REBIRTHING Betty!!!
>
> BW > Get your head out of your ass.
> BW > I didn't ask you about re-birthing.
> BW > I asked you to show me social workers
> BW > recommending cold shower treatment
> BW > for wetting. Can't? I figured as much.
> BW > Trying to change the subject won't do
> BW > a thing to bump up your poor
> BW > credibility on this, or any other issue.
>
> KRP > Betty get [your] head out of your OWN ass.
> KRP > On Saturday I provided several LINKS
> KRP > (GIMME GODDDDAMN LINKS - I
> KRP > WANT LINKS!!!) That discussed "Rage
> KRP > Reduction Therapy. " Re-birthing is the
> KRP > terminus of that process. The whole
> KRP > deal is a concept embraced by
> KRP > SOCIAL WORKERS and NOT
> KRP > psychologists. They LOVE that VOO
> KRP > DOO bull****! On the one extreme it
> KRP > starts with things like cold showers
> KRP > and holding the child (restraint) then
> KRP > goes to wrapping the child in a cold
> KRP > wet sheet and finally REBIRTHING.
> KRP > All part of the same fukked mentality
> KRP > Betty. The whole deal may start with
> KRP > some reasonable efforts to deal with
> KRP > the child's anger, but add a social
> KRP > worker to the mix and it gets
> KRP > psychotic pretty fast.Social Workers
> KRP > are POSITIVE they know MORE about
> KRP > medicine, psychology, psychiatry etc
> KRP > than those who have actually
> KRP > studied in those fields. Kind of like
> KRP > Kane, YOU and Sullivan. Not to mention
> KRP > Kunt Wills the world's greatest living
> KRP > authority on EVERYTHING!
>
> BW > Just can't stick to the topic, can you Ken?
> BW > Did you take your meds today?
>
> Topics drift.
> You should KNOW that, Betty!
>
> The question is whether it was a logical
> evolution of the conversation.
>
> Ivan Gowch's anti-spanking rant was the first topic.
>
> Firemonkey changed the topic to cold showers.
>
> Apparently she thought that Ivan was on the ropes
> and couldn't let it end like that.
>
> It was really more of a personal attack on me
> when she switched to the cold shower thing.
>
> Betty, you didn't ***** when that topic drift
> took place.
I wasn't part of that conversation.
I hope you realize that there are hundreds of posts in some of the
recent threads, and I do not see them all.
>
> But now that it ****fted to cold showers and
> Ken pointed out that Social Workers have
> done far worse than cold showers, you
> think that topic drift is something to ***** about?
Hmmm.
No, I don't think that's what Ken pointed out.
If I'm not mistaken, he said that MANY social workers have suggested
trying cold showers to prevent children wetting themselves.
And if I recall, I asked him for proof.
He rambled about 're-birthing', which in no way proves that social
workers, much less MANY social workers recommend cold showers.
Is there something about THAT that YOU would like to ***** about?
>
> It's sad FOR YOU that the cold showers gambit
> was played out.
>
> You sure seemed PISSED when ken brought up
> the "re-birthing" stuff! LOL Touchy subject for you?
Is there some reason why you THINK it would be?
We were discussing cold showers for wetting.
Ken popped up with some rebirthing bull**** that was not relevant.
So what?
>
> Ken, We HAVE in the past discussed the
> sickness that is/was "re-birthing".
>
> Apparently a considerable ****tion of adopters and
> even Fosters had some psychological hangups
> with the fact that the child did not actually
> spring from their own loins.
>
> Re-birthing for some seems to be more about the
> bizarre psychology in the "new Mom"'s head
> and fulfilling some feeling that she is incomplete
> because she did NOT actually make a baby.
>
> Parts of it resemble some strange brainwa****ng purpose.
>
> The disaster that re-birthing is reveals some
> bizarre psychology regarding feelings of
> ""owner****p"" and denial that the kid was
> adopted or deluding themselves into the
> fantasy that they actually gave birth to the child.
>
> Some heavy duty brain rot that shows that
> all is NOT well in Foster/Adoption land.
>
> Much worse than mere cold showers, and
> done by the heros of the socialist
> revolution, the ""superior"" adoptive parents!
But I would like to ask, again, is there any proof of Ken's assertion
that cold showers are recommended by social workers?
No?
Didn't think so.
>
> They have fewer psychological kinks, supposedly... <grin>
>
> When a parent does something like a cold shower
> that you personally decide is a kinky, it's
> MONUMENTAL but when SW's do stuff that
> is truly kinky and DEADLY, you
> want to MINIMIZE that, right Betty?
I'm sorry if you feel that Ken's assertion that social workers
recommend cold showers was not the topic, and instead choose to
believe that rebirthing was the topic.
It's not my fault you are as delusional as he is.
I haven't minimized anything, just asked Ken for proof that 'Many'
social workers recommend forcing children to take cold showers for
wetting themselves.
>
> And cry foul about the natural topic drift! LOL
LOL Well, no, actually, I cry foul at the deliberate attempt at
changing the topic.
But you believe what you want, Gregalmighty.
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