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Re: Fostie leaves 9 month old in hot car to die -- child advocate says "there but for the grace of God go I"

by "Ron" <apositiveplace@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 7, 2008 at 08:57 PM

"Andrew Usher" <k_over_hbarc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:1e73830c-b0e6-404f-a702-c2713502a567@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Sep 7, 6:19 pm, "Ron" <apositivepl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> > Yeah, what a joke. We know that biological parents get charged for
>> > things like this all the time! And they're even less likely to do it
>> > intentionally.
>>
>> So, is the child less dead if the death was accidental?  Is that child 
>> less
>> deserving of justice than one who is killed intentionally?
>
> What???
>
> Of course the child is just as dead, and if he got what he 'deserved'
> he would not be dead! Of course intentional killing (murder) should
> be treated differently than accidental killing.

So, by your logic an accident that could have been prevented by a parent 
that was doing their job should be fogiven.  Hmmm, interesting.

>
>> > To be honest I don't think it should be a crime if it is truly
>> > an accident, and I apply that standard to any case. Disagreeing
>> > with that, I think, is just an example of the "it can't happen to me"
>> > effect.
>
>> So everyone should just claim that what they have done to their fellow 
>> man
>> is an accident and all is forgiven.
>
> I said 'is truly an accident', not 'the perpetrator claims it was an
> accident'.
> You are lying.

Andy, there is no such thing as an accident.  Not when the death of a
child 
is concerned.  Negligence covers all the rest.

"I accidentally rolled over him in my sleep".  Well, he should not have
been 
sleeping with you.
"I accidentally dropped him from the 5th floor".  Well, what was he doing 
out the window?
"He was accidentally thrown from the car when I hit the other vehicle". 
Was 
he in a car seat?  Was it strapped in properly?  Was HE strapped in 
properly?  Were you speeding, drunk, not paying attention?

No, I'm not lying Andy, I just know the difference between intentional 
killings and negligent one's.

Ron


>
> Andrew Usher
 




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Re: Fostie leaves 9 month old in hot car to die -- child advocat
Greegor <Greegor47@[EM  2008-09-06 21:01:43 
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Andrew Usher <k_over_h  2008-09-06 21:48:52 
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"Ron" <aposi  2008-09-07 19:19:54 
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Dan Sullivan <dsulldan  2008-09-11 00:56:05 
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Greegor <Greegor47@[EM  2008-09-09 20:25:50 
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