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"Nicky Warren" <nickywarren321967@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Fourth Grade seems kind of early. We didn't have to take showers
> until Jr High.
>
> I can understand your concern. Although I wouldn't have any problem
> with my children taking showers with other students since I see the
> ****d body as natural and nothing to be ashamed of, I do respect those
> with an opposite viewpoint.
>
> However, that said, I just don't see how one would solve such a
> problem. Assuming that one PE class has 30 students, it would be very
> hard for a school to build a lockerroom with 30 enclosed showers. Or
> even 15.
>
> And a swimming suit really doesn't change the situation. After all the
> child would have to change into the swimming suit before taking the
> shower at wherepoint the child would be ****d and then the child would
> have to change out of the swimming suit after the shower at which
> point the child would be ****d again. And of course that would take
> too long. It just doesn't make sense time wise.
>
> This is why I sup****t homeschooling and private schools over public
> education. There is no way any public school could accomindate all
> the the concerns, beliefs, customs, etc of its varied student body.
>
> If you have a solution to the school shower issue I would love to hear
> it. Frankly I think this is one of the times that practicality wins
> out.
>
> I could say that you should let your child just shower ****d like the
> other students because obviously she doesn't find being ****d in front
> of them more tramatic than being singled out. There will come a time
> when the child will have to seek out her values away from the family,
> but I understand that this is a strongly held belief and at 9 years
> old that you feel that now might not be the time.
>
> I would though like you to consider for a moment that being ****d
> doesn't have to conflict with the modesty issue that you feel is so
> im****tant for your child. In ****ism people don't use their bodies in
> a ***ual matter. So it is possible for people to be very modest in
> dress in cir***stances where modesty is im****tant, and still be an
> active ****ist.
>
> There are many ****ist Christians. I would suggest that you study the
> ****ist clubs in the area to make sure that you are going to one that
> is actually family friendly, and then just try it just once. If you
> still have the same mindset about ****ism then you are certainly free
> to have your opinion. ****ism isn't for everyone and no one ever said
> it was.
>
>
>
> concernedparent@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Elizabeth Kennedy) wrote in message
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>...
> > I think individual parent's wishes should be respected by our schools.
> > Especially, any wishes concerning any family's religous beliefs or
> > modesty concerns.
> >
> > I am a Christian Mom of a 9 year old daugher. Last week she started
> > the fourth grade in which the elementary school begins requiring
> > showers. This is much too young! Children this young are very
> > impressionable and are not old enough to have fully developed a proper
> > sense of Christian modesty. I do not want my child to be taught that
> > public ****ity and group showers are OK just because some liberal
> > school administrator thinks this is a great idea.
> >
> > All the girl's shower together completely ****, as this is what the
> > school encourages and coerces them to do. The girl's school showers
> > are just one open communal room which my family believes is associated
> > with the type of bad morals we teach and pray that our children avoid.
> >
> > I complained to the PE teacher, but she was very condescending. She
> > agreed my daughter could wear a bathing suit, but still has to shower
> > with all the other students who are ****. The peer pressue of the
> > other students and the teacher is too much for a young 9 year old
> > child and my daughter has already asked me if she can just shower
> > unclothed like the other kids so she can fit in. The school also
> > refuses to let my daughter shower in a private room elsewhere in the
> > school.
> >
> > Conservative Christian parents (and other religions, like Muslims) are
> > going to start fighting back. Amazon.com lists a book about Concerned
> > Parent's fight against Jr. High PE teacher (
> >
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1410735990/qid=1094673967/sr=8-
> > ) with one parent's courageous example.
> >
> > People who encourage or sup****t these forced shower policies are
> > helping to violate the privacy of are precious innocent children.
> > Check out the following poll for an example:
> >
> > http://www.misterpoll.com/1335548515.html
> >
> > The voters of this poll should have more respect for individual and
> > religious rights as guaranteed in our country's constitution!


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