On Jul 24, 1:24=A0pm, Caledonia <MAlibe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Banty <Banty_mem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > In article
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> > Caledonia says...
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> > >On Jul 23, 12:03 am, mom0f4boys <momsh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> I live in Massachusetts, so my vote doesn't matter. =A0I always
vote
> > >> anyway, on principle, but really - my vote doesn't count.
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> > >I also live in MA, and at the national level my vote is somewhat of a
> > >wash. For the election this September 16th, though (for state rep/
> > >senator) it will have a pretty large impact. Different candidates
have
> > >varying stands on 40B, casinos, school aid and Chapter 70, reducing
> > >Prop 2.5, etc.
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> > >And at the local level -- as seemingly most overrrides fail or pass
on
> > >relatively narrow margins -- the impact of one vote is huge.
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> > >So yep, I agree that for a national election, our votes are typically
> > >subsumed. But for the other two 'layers' of government, our votes are
> > >pretty darn critical.
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> > Referring to the electoral college and how our states (I'm in New York
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state)
> > are pretty much so 'blue' that your vote in a presidential election,
wh=
atever it
> > is, wouldn't make a difference?
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> > Yeah, I'd agree as far as who gets into the White House, but seldom is
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that the
> > only issue on the ballot. =A0Also, if you consider the
Democrat-Republi=
can thing
> > sewn up, you can vote for third parties to register your interst in
the=
ir
> > viewpoint, even if you wouldn't actually favor the person or
particular=
platfom
> > to actually be in office. =A0If a small party (Nader, Libertarian,
what=
ever) gets
> > a 6% vote, say, rather than a 1 or 2% vote, people start taking notice
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of their
> > ideas and they get more media coverage. =A0That's one way to have some
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voice.
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> > Banty
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> (Disclaimer: I'm pretty happy living in a blue state. The blue laws
> here, though, are a whole 'nother issue...:)
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> The thing that perplexes me is that the national elections typically
> have a larger-than-average turnout when compared to local-only or
> state-only elections, and there's always so much more interest behind
> 'who one is voting for for president.' I'm likely bitterly reacting to
> overhearing too many people lately discuss their interest in the
> presidential campaign, while freely admitting that it's the only
> office for which they cast a vote.
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I see your point Caledonia. And that is a shame if that is the only
election they are voting in. People are more directly affected by the
state and local elections.
Personally, I noticed tho, during the primary's of my state in May,
that many more people were out voting this time around, for the local
measures. Why did this happen?? I think it's because at this time in
2008, people are sick and tired of the way the country has gone. I
think perhaps the thing that got them to send in their ballot was the
presidential primary vote, however, their were many other things on
the ballot that they voted on. The presidetial primary vote, was the
impetus.
As far as the Presidential election goes, I will be very interested to
see how the debates go. Right now it's mostly spin. But the one on
one is what I look forward to, seeing how they both stand up.
I have always voted blue. My core beliefs are blue. I tend not to
stand so much for big business, but more for the people. However, I
do like some of the things McCain is saying as well, when he's not
whining. I guess we'll see. I do think that Obama is doing an
awesome job on his tour of the middleeast and europe....something
McCain goaded him into doing.
Patti


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