dejablues wrote:
> "Stephanie" <haaa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> NL wrote:
>>> Stephanie schrieb:
>>>> NL wrote:
>>>>> Stephanie schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many days he does sleep in. Many days he gets up because he is
>>>>>> hungry or has to go to the bathroom. Some mornings his sister
>>>>>> makes too much noise getting up and wakes him up. We basically
>>>>>> NEVER wake him up.
>>>>> Sorry, but that doesn't really sound like a regular routine to me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant a regular go TO bed routine.
>>>
>>> Yes, that's not helping him though. If he gets to sleep in he will
>>> not be tired when you put him TO bed.
>>
>>
>> But he IS tired when he goes to bed. He COMPLAINS about being tired
>> but not able to fall asleep.
>>
>>
>>> He's not falling asleep when you're
>>> putting him to bed, so he may need a better morning routine as in
>>> getting up at the same time every day.
>>>
>>>>> Get him up whenever you get up or his siblings get up. Make it a
>>>>> fixed time, like 7 or 8a.m. or something and put him to bed at a
>>>>> set time, too, like 8p.m. That gives him about 12 hours to sleep
>>>>> in, which means even if he doesn't fall asleep right away he
>>>>> should get enough sleep. Be super rigid for a while (I'd say 2
>>>>> weeks) no exceptions except for emergencies and a weekend is not
>>>>> an emergency, then see if it has improved any.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That makes no sense. He is already walking wounded, and you want me
>>>> to curtail his sleep further? The problem is not being able to slow
>>>> his mind down. He has TOLD me this. His difficulty in falling
>>>> asleep is worse the more tired he gets, as is often the case.
>>>
>>> Well, you are saying he's not able to fall asleep, which to me
>>> sounds like he's probably not yet tired when you're putting him to
>>> bed.
>>
>>
>> Except title of the thread "son is often tired."
>>
>>> Get him on a stricter schedule and see what happens. My guess is
>>> that his system's pretty screwed up by the rhythm he has now so
>>> it'll take a couple of days until he settles down.
>>> I remember my school holidays, I would read until whenever, keeping
>>> myself up, then sleep in the next day, so it was easier to stay
>>> awake longer and thus I slept in even later the next day and that's
>>> how I got screwed up with my sleep schedule. Not by waking early,
>>> by falling asleep late.
>>>
>>> Of course you're free to keep doing what you're doing and hope it'll
>>> produce a different result, but my guess is it won't.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone have an insight into learning to meditate?
>>
>>>>> Try the relaxation techniques, but if he sleeps in a lot that
>>>>> means he will be awake longer and that's a cycle you need to
>>>>> break, if it bothers you...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not me it bothers. It is him. I don't care when he sleeps. As
>>>> long as he does not feel tired all day. The problem is that he is
>>>> not getting enough sleep.
>>>
>>> Yeah. But by letting him sleep in you're making the problem worse.
>>> Because he will not be tired at 8 when he got up at 10.
>>>
>>
>> He IS tired. He tells me so. He is rubbing his eyes and complaining
>> of being tired.
>
> I've been thinking about this, and is it possible that he has a
> medical condition like sleep apnea, low blood sugar, or anemia?
>
I don't know. But he has a regular doc visit, so I will bring it up.
> Also, is he getting enough mental stimulation in addition to physical
> exercise?
I *think* so? I will think more on this. Thanks.


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