Re: the requirement that the state *provide* an education

Beliavsky wrote:
> On Jul 28, 12:10 pm, Banty <Banty_mem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> In article <vaur84p9ve6ion5o7p8jebca0879k31...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Nan says...
>>
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>>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:40:17 -0700 (PDT), Beliavsky
>>> <beliav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>>>> If parents are using illegal drugs but are not directly involving
>>>> the child in their activities (for example by having the child
>>>> take drugs or buy the drugs), I am uncomfortable with calling in
>>>> the police because of what a child says or because of his/her
>>>> appearance.
>>
>>> Why am I not surprised you'd say this....
>>
>> In my county we had a family of five, both parents and three
>> elementary and junior high school aged boys, murdered one night in
>> their home and their house burned down as a cover. The culprits, who
>> were both recently convicted, were drug dealers who had constant
>> business with the father, who was also a dealer.
>>
>> Their parents were proud, we were told later by associates, that
>> they "kept their kids out of" their drug dealing by only doing deals
>> after their bedtimes, etc.
>>
>> So these boys were not directly involved in the drug dealing. Would
>> you say that were *affected*??!?
>
> In general, I don't like using teachers as law enforcement officials
> or children as informants against their parents. There are probably
> millions of kids in the public schools who are not in the U.S. legally
> or whose parents are not legal. Suppose a teacher finds out that a
> student or his parents is illegal. Should she be required to re****t
> the student or parents to immigration? I'd say no.
>


All members of society are supposed to re****t suspected abuse and neglect.
I 
would call having a child stoned out of his mind from second hand smoke of

his parents at very LEAST awfully neglectful. Being illegal is not 
neglectful as far as I can see.

> I do think the U.S. is adversely affect by illegal immigration and
> could certainly cite horrific crimes committed by illegals, just as
> you can cite crimes stemming from illegal drugs. I would sup****t
> requiring local police to re****t the names of the people they arrest
> to the federal government so that legal residency could be
> established. But teachers are not police.